Good afternoon. How are you?
It is a great honor for me to have the opportunity to listen to all of you and to participate in this gathering. When I first heard about this initiative, beyond everything that can be analyzed from a theoretical perspective, one fundamental question inevitably emerged: what is happiness, really? How does happiness manifest itself in our everyday lives? How is it expressed within our culture?
And here I found it especially interesting to reflect on the uniqueness that each culture brings to this concept. Because we usually associate happiness — or at least this is how liberal logic has taught us to think — exclusively with consumption or with a binary perspective: either I am happy or I am not. As if happiness were a kind of final state, a determining factor that divides people into the happy and the unhappy, even within the same society.
This way of thinking, characteristic of the liberal tradition and of Hobbesian ideas that separate good from bad, happiness from unhappiness, has obvious limitations — especially when we examine the issue from the perspective of the periphery.
I am speaking from Argentina, a country that can be considered part of the periphery of the global system. And I emphasize this geopolitical dimension because even today the distribution and exercise of power on a global scale continue to shape our reality in profound ways. During the Cold War, our country was within the sphere of influence of North America and formed part of a system that contributed to the development of an empire of which we ourselves were part. Today, fortunately, as we can see, that empire is in decline.
In this new multipolar world, other centers are emerging, with different concepts and different ways of thinking, offering us new ways of understanding not only happiness, but also the human being within society. That is why I believe it is important to reflect on happiness from the perspective of the periphery: first, because it is the reality in which I have lived; and second, because if we remain trapped within this binary logic of happiness and unhappiness, we may conclude that peripheral countries — with less access to consumption and less participation in global structures of power — are condemned to unhappiness.
Yet it is interesting to reflect on the fact that happiness is not determined solely by material principles. The human being is not only matter, but also spirit. Human life is defined not only by the ability to consume or accumulate wealth, but also by the possibility of self-realization and of finding meaning within a social community.
In this sense, we can say that today, in our region — which clearly does not occupy a central role on the international stage — happiness is grounded in other principles, deeply connected to our culture. A culture that is whole, diverse, and formed from multiple traditions.
And I say this not only because I am Argentine, but also thinking of the Latin American experience as a whole, and especially of the Río de la Plata region, where different migratory currents coexisted and transformed our identity. Many cultures that suffered persecution throughout history found here a space in which to develop. When a person thinks about their country, an idea emerges that brings happiness: a sense of belonging, a reason for being here, the memory of our parents and of those who gave us life.
In this sense, happiness is connected to what we remember, to what has historically shaped us. It cannot be reduced solely to material dimensions, as many studies often attempt to do, because it also possesses a profound spiritual dimension, depth, and transcendence within history.
In Argentina this can be seen especially clearly. Between 1945 and 1955 there existed a political project in which «the happiness of the people» was a central slogan, and the state assumed an active role in seeking to ensure that the population felt happy. This leads us to reflect on the limits and possibilities of the state — from a governmental and institutional perspective — in relation to people’s happiness.
It is impossible to decree happiness. One cannot say: «Now you are happy for this or that reason.» But the state can place the pursuit of collective happiness among its highest goals. And in recent decades, at least in Argentina, happiness has not been an explicit objective of political leadership. Public governance has been directed toward other goals, often far removed from the deeper well-being of the community.
We are a young country; our history spans only around two hundred years. If one looks only at economic indicators, one might conclude that Argentinians are not happy: we experience severe economic crises that make it difficult to build a future. And yet culture is what remains, and it is culture that shapes a profound sense of belonging.
This feeling is clearly visible, for example, in events such as the recent Football World Cup, or in the issue of the Malvinas Islands. This is connected to what the previous speaker mentioned: the idea of sovereignty and the understanding of happiness through it. The ability to decide the fate of one’s territory and one’s future creates a deep sense of belonging that strengthens collective identity.
In Argentina, despite economic difficulties, there exists a strong national feeling that manifests itself in spheres that are not strictly political: football, art, religion. We are a country with religious freedom and without major interreligious conflicts. And if Argentina has given something spiritual to the world, then undoubtedly it is Pope Francis.
In his writings and speeches, Francis spoke of happiness as the joy of encounter, as going beyond oneself, as moving toward the other, as creating together with others. There is no purely individual happiness: it is found in community, in those moments when we rethink and reaffirm who we are.
From the perspective of the periphery — understood not only as a place of scarcity, but also as a theological and human space — there is a search for the authenticity of being. Happiness is deeply connected to culture, to its uniqueness and particularities. It is not convenience or comfort. In Latin America, even where material resources may be lacking, there is an abundance of encounters, celebrations, solidarity, and the desire to move toward others.
Happiness is expressed in both rural and urban environments, where social and communal bonds generate meaning. The nation, ultimately, can serve as the guarantor of the conditions necessary for happiness. The example of the Malvinas Islands demonstrates this well: a short war that took place more than forty years ago remains alive in collective memory and continues to unite the Argentine people through remembrance and respect for those who gave their lives.
Happiness, in the end, is a feeling. It cannot be imposed. But we can reflect on the condition of collective happiness within a community. And here a political question emerges: what is the role of the state in shaping this feeling?
We believe that the state should create conditions in which people want to participate, to become involved in more immediate, local, and communal forms of decision-making. To participate, make decisions, and assume responsibility means strengthening the sense of belonging and integration.
Preserving traditions is also of fundamental importance. When politics attempts to erase the past in the name of supposed innovation, the historical thread is broken, and people become isolated from their cultural identity. Happiness is also not merely access to material goods, but the possibility of living with dignity and meaning, knowing that one’s efforts are not in vain.
Another essential foundation is security, understood not only in a physical sense, but also as the possibility of building a life without constantly facing social, economic, or environmental crises. In this sense, our Latin American traditions, more closely connected to nature and to the rhythms of life, offer valuable guidance for rediscovering happiness in what is most essential.
This is not about rejecting technology, but about restoring contact with creation, with the surrounding world, with simple things. The state must also guarantee the rights of children and a dignified old age. Predictability, calm, and stability allow people to make thoughtful decisions and live more peacefully and with dignity.
Disorder, uncertainty, and the impossibility of planning for the future generate anxiety, stress, and a diminished sense of happiness. Therefore, in conclusion, I would like to say that politics and the state must create conditions of tranquility for a community that does not lose sight of its history, its culture, its spirituality, and its connection with nature.
Thank you very much.
Question: You say that the human being is soul and spirit. At Simurg University, we share this approach, this understanding of the human being.
How do you perceive today the fact that the understanding of happiness is increasingly being disseminated not as something determined primarily by the state or by external circumstances, but as an inner state of the soul?
To what extent, in your opinion, can happiness be understood as an inner state of the person, one that does not directly depend on what is happening around them?
It does not depend only on external circumstances, nor only on the political situation. The state of happiness is not determined exclusively by one’s economic situation, family status, or money.
I think it is difficult to reduce happiness to a percentage or a quantity. There is a constant interaction between the inner and the outer in all of us. We cannot simply place ourselves at the center and say, «I am happy despite everything,» even if, for example, we are in the middle of a bombing. There are realities that constantly pass through us.
There are periods of greater and lesser happiness. I read a study that analyzed who lives longer. One might assume that if a person lives longer, it means they are calmer, that there is a system that supports and sustains them. However, the study showed that those who lived longer were people who met with others, who maintained relationships.
Because we are social beings. Our life is built together with others. And I think that one of the great dramas we are experiencing today, especially in the post-pandemic period, is loneliness amid constant online involvement: we are always connected, but without hugs, without contact, without meetings, without living human laughter nearby.
We live through mediation. And I think there is a challenge here that each of us can accept, even on a small scale, without thinking that this is a matter of major politics or some large state plan. It is something we can begin to practice every day: when we call a relative or a friend, when we meet someone for coffee.
I think this is exactly what fills us with energy and makes life a little more inspiring. These are small human actions, small everyday joys that bring people closer together, open hearts, and fill life with genuine meanings.
Question: What is happiness for you?
For me personally, happiness is, first of all, in the people around me: in my children, in my family. That makes me very happy. Great happiness also implies great responsibility. But I think we all imagine our happiness through those with whom we can share it, regardless of circumstances.
That is why I say that there is a private, personal sphere, and there is also a public sphere in which we can all participate and improve something. In this sense, I believe the state, as an institution, has certain limits: it can help create conditions, but it cannot decree the happiness of a political community.
Here in Argentina, we usually do something called comer asado: we gather together to cook meat on the grill, over an open fire. We spend long Sunday hours talking about different topics, eating and drinking mate — a traditional drink we inherited from the Guarani people.
In both difficult and joyful moments, we gather to drink mate. Perhaps in other cultures people gather around other drinks, but the meaning is the same: to be together.
Question: I am Tuvan; I was born in Tuva, which is part of Russia. I was very interested in your idea that happiness includes both national belonging and belonging to one’s native land. I fully share this view.
My question is: what measures and actions could be taken today so that an ordinary person could help unite people of different nationalities and traditions around a shared understanding of happiness?
Hello, it is very nice to meet you. I am glad that what I said seemed interesting to you. I think the essence of this question — the harmony that should exist between cultures — is closely connected to what Pope Francis expresses through the idea of the «polyhedron.»
First of all, it is necessary to understand that we are different and that the world consists of many parts, many different facets, which have both the possibility and the responsibility to engage in dialogue and understand one another. Despite all our differences, human beings are guided by principles that we share. No culture proclaims theft, murder, or lies as its fundamental values. This does not belong to the origin of human nature; rather, it may be a matter of interests, and that already belongs to the sphere of politics.
But in a cultural sense, if a person is able to accept that there are other people who think differently, who have other traditions and another way of life, then I believe coexistence is possible. I think there is a current of thought — especially an Anglo-Saxon one — that has failed to understand this, and throughout history this has led to the destruction of many cultures.
Fortunately — thank God — Latin America has not suffered such a complete defeat, although today it is going through many difficulties. Here, even the very concept of happiness is deeply connected with encounter, celebration, and the veneration of those who lived on this land. In Latin America, there is a very strong tradition of respect and veneration for ancestors and the dead.
There are cultures in which this is expressed especially clearly. In Mexico, for example, death is celebrated; it becomes part of a festival. In Argentina, we are more restrained, but we share the idea that happiness lies in community, in unity, and in encounter. And I think that, in a certain sense, this is what sustains us in these difficult times: our culture.
As for peoples themselves, there is no natural conflict between them. Conflict is usually something artificial, imposed, aimed at destroying the other. It is often also the result of ignorance. This happens, for example, when people speak about Russia: many still retain an image formed forty years ago. But when someone with good intentions explains, shows photographs, and tells what they have seen, that image changes. Surprise, curiosity, and questions appear.
I think the same happens with other cultures, such as India, which many people still imagine as it was twenty years ago, although in reality it has changed greatly. If we always approach others with curiosity, a desire to learn, and humility, then these are precisely the principles that allow us to understand one another, even if we do not speak the same language or share the same traditions.
At the deeper levels of society, this is not a real problem, but something artificially imposed in order to divide us and set us against one another. Pope Francis has always said that we must build bridges, not walls.
And I think this also implies a personal attitude: to be humble, compassionate, and understanding, because this not only makes encounter easier, but also allows us to learn from the other.
I think that answers your question.